So delayed cord clamping is again important because in that one, two, three, four, whatever minutes, however long it takes for the pulsation to disappear, you can get around to 200, 300 ML of blood to the baby, which is huge for that tiny little thing, which is, weighs 2.5, three kgs or whatever it is that 300 ML makes a lot of difference.
So what we do is once, in water, once the baby comes out, the baby is direct, as I said, put to the breast and I deliver the placenta out. So by the time we moved the mother out from the pool to the table, the pulse has gone off the umbilical cord. In normal labor, on the table, once I give the baby to the mother directly after birth and we wait for the pulsation again to disappear and then climb and cut the cord.
And in a C-section we wait, as long as possible, if there is no bleeding around the uterus, we try to wait till the pulsation disappears. Otherwise we, we try to delay as much as possible.